Twitter I*N*S*A*N*I*T*Y AKA JennGate Fraud-A-Thon 2011

***UPDATED***

WARNING: I know that posting this blog will probably inspire some people to come and scream at me in the comments section, and might even attract a troll or two. So before you go calling me a hater or whatever, I just want to make something clear: the things I’m posting here are the facts as they happened. Not my personal opinions. I am simply providing the information, and you can all come to your own conclusions. Please don’t yell at me if you don’t like what you read. Thank you.

(Please Note: insert the word “allegedly” where applicable.)


A little back story for those of you who are not regular readers and aren’t familiar with Zen Jenn from Chicago Now:

– It all started here when I wrote a little rant about a guy who wrote an absolutly awful RHOBH recap for Yahoo’s OMG: http://wp.me/pXhBd-T5

– Jenn (who also writes for Yahoo) seemed to take personal offence to my blog about that random guy’s recap (she doesn’t know him), and wrote a nasty blog attacking me and even Lynn too (for no reason bc Lynn didn’t do anything to her). So I created a “BS Blogger Blog” from Jenn’s nasty blog post. She has since deleted the original that she wrote, but you can still read the copy/paste (with my comments inserted) here: http://wp.me/pXhBd-Ta

– Then I did this just for fun: http://wp.me/pXhBd-Td

– Here is a Youtube of Jenn, just to give you an idea of the type of person we’re dealing with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdNoO73hRzY

Here are her twitterlongers from the time all this was going on:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/6vmi5r
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/6sg9ch
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/6rcvn3

See you back here in 5 hours when you’ve finally read all this.

 

Ok, so getting to the point: A lot of people are wondering exactly what the fuck happened on twitter the other day (Feb 2011). It all began when JS (Jenn Sale) started tweeting and blogging about personal things that were happening in her relationship. I can’t show you the tweets because she has since deleted her twitter account, but here are the screen shots of a couple of the blogs she posted (also now deleted):

(You may need to use the magnifier on your browser to read these OR you can click on them to enlarge them. But each blog post is broken into 2 or 3 pieces even though it doesn’t look like it, so you’ll have to click each piece. Sorry this is so complicated. Lol.)

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Later on that night, after the last blog post, she tweeted that she had checked into a hotel and was safe.

This situation inspired some people to want to get involved and help, and when they did, information started being revealed. Here are the things that started coming out about Zen Jenn:

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When all this info came out people online began tweeting to Jenn and asking her about it. She tweeted a few answers blaming her (ex?) husband for her arrest. Eventually she tweeted that no one will believe her no matter what she says and deleted her twitter account. She said she was fine before twitter and would be fine after it…. But then she created a new twitter account within an hour. That account has also since been deleted and as of now she just uses her RealityZen twitter account. After her original twitter disappeared she posted a new blog, but deleted all the posts written before that. That new blog post has also since been deleted, but here is the screen shot:

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After all the vague references to unspecified people and events in that blog, we are only left with more questions.

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Here is @Intensity38’s account of what happened. It is long, but it will help put things into perspective:

I know I’m a little late in these responses, but I do have a comment to make about the suicide of that teenage girl who posted her last message on twitter along with the explanation that everyone has been asking for.

Last fall there was a woman who was friends with quite a few of us here in this group.
I will cut to the chase cause this is long and I don’t want to take up more room on this blog. Anyway she was drinking that day and was not at all happy with anyone. She was calling people out left and right saying some horrible things to people that she was angry at and was posting with many spelling mistakes and repeated words.

Wellsies, (lol) after a whole day of this she posted that she took a ‘boat load’ of pills and said goodbye and other things like, she would ‘see us on the other side’. A number of people on twitter were frantic, thinking that this woman, whom had children, had taken pills and nobody knew what to do.
A number of people, including me, had written URGENT messages to twitter asking them to get her IP and call the police. There was no response to anyone’s message, except the automated message saying that they had gotten your message and would get back to you. Not what you want to hear when you believe someone’s life is at stake.
Anywho…..
So, I decided that enough time had passed and called 911. I spoke to the operator, and gave her as much information as I could. There wasn’t a lot she could do seeing we were in different states, so I got back on twitter and by the luck of the Irish, I found that one of her followers had her cell phone number.

I called 911 back and they put me through to the area code’s emergency response network. I was put through to the police and spent almost an hour trying to explain to this police woman what was happening.
(During this time, we were all still watching her account and nothing. She was not responding.)
Your not going to believe this, but I swear on my life it’s true. This police department did NOT have Internet access! This woman didn’t even have any idea what Twitter was.
I thought, ‘oh great, now what’?

After going through all of this (and now it’s almost 2 hours since she wrote “see you on the other side, or something to that effect.) She finally took down the cell phone number and the information a number of kind people had collected from her friends (who were all still waiting anxiously to find out what happened to her).

She said she would call me back and hung up. I informed everyone as to what was happening and we all sat nervously awaiting the call back.

About an hour later the phone rang, and it was her, the female policewoman. She explained to me that they found out who she was and where she lived from her cell phone information and had sent a couple cars to her house. They knocked but nobody answered, so they pounded on the door and they heard someone yell that they were coming.
She (the woman who ‘took the boatload of pills) answered the door and was quite pissed off that the police were there pounding on her door and she denied saying she took the pills. She denied saying she would see us on the other side. She denied it all. They checked on her son and left.
That was it. The visit took 5 minutes total. Most of it was her saying this was all a lie.
We all were thankful, yet very upset that she had put us through this. (A sweet woman on twitter even left a meeting at work, to try and keep her tweeting so we could find her)
So, Let’s say, the whole bunch of us were pissed off but glad that it had not happened. If this was not enough, this woman comes back on twitter about eight hours later, deletes a couple of her ‘see you on the other side’ tweets and tweeted that ‘SHE was PISSED off that SOMEONE sent the POLICE to her house last night because THEY *the police* woke her and her son up!’ OMFG!

Your probably asking ‘why is she telling us this’, and it’s because I want people to know that first, there are some wonderful people on twitter with very big hearts, and second, it’s people like her who make other people on Twitter dismiss the REAL tweets of the people who are REALLY committing suicide.

I pray that this is not what happened with this teenager, and that it doesn’t ever happen again.

If you ask me now, would I do the same thing as I did that night, the answer is YES! Because I would never be able to live with myself had I not attempted to contact this woman and found out later that she had gone through with it.

Okie Dokie. So now on to Jen. She did not say she was going to kill herself, nor did she ever indicate that she was going to hurt herself or her children, BUT She indicated that she was in an abusive situation that she could not get out of. She said that her husband was ‘holding her hostage’ by taking the battery out of the car and removing her cash and credit cards from her wallet.

Because I have volunteered on crisis hotlines for years,
I knew there were many ‘underground’ shelters out there who will come in, and in two hours, will have the abused woman and her children out of the house, far away. They will give them a new life with a place to live, help them change their name, get a job and give them money to help them get started. All of this so the abuser cannot find them because sometimes orders of protection do not work.
Anyway, because of what Jen saidin her blogs and on her Twitter page, I really thought that she needed this help. My heart broke for her and her children because nobody, not a man or woman should have to live their lives in fear.
She had been saying what an awful situation she was in, that her ‘husband’ burned her things, her clothes and the things her father had left her. She indicated that she was being held hostage with no way out, no money and she was fearful for herself and her children.
I made some phone calls with the information I had and tried to find someone to help her. I emailed her blogs and her tweets to a woman who’s name I will not reveal and waited for her to collect the things she needed to, and to get a hold of Jen and try to get her out if she needed to get out.
I will not reveal what happened next but lets just say, my eyes were opened up and I found out that she was not the abused woman she was claiming to be. Nor was she in the situations she reported on her blogs.
I was more than angry and I apologize for this because it seems that she really does need help. Not from a shelter but from a professional psychiatrist or someone who can help her to stop with her lies.
I had to post this because I have been asked over and over about what happened and I wanted to clear the air.
If Jen actually was telling the truth, I wanted to hear it from her, so I asked her and she tweeted some kind of “fuck off” to me. I then became even more angry and posted the article I received (from someone I asked to help Jen)
I asked her to comment and she deleted her Twitter account and posted a blog (you can read it above) and she gave me a special shout out and she told me to “Go fuck myself”
So there is what happened in total. Nobody at twitter, no blogger, gave me that information. Nobody did anything to Jen but me, and it was a gesture that I would hope someone would do for me if I was in a situation like she described.
Jen keeps blaming Lynn and others for what happened and it was only me. Nobody else. So if the friends that she still has, want to tar and feather anyone, come and see me. I did it.
Now, ‘ask me would I do it again’? And I will tell you YES! Yes I would do it again in a heartbeat. Just because she used her blog to lie, does not mean that if someone else needed help, that I wouldn’t help.
I guess that means I am a sucker and I will let people use me, but I see it as, I hope that if I ever needed help, that there would be someone out there who would help me.

Okay, I’m done now. So I will go to twitter now and await the hate tweets and the name calling. I don’t care what you do. You cannot, and you will not ever, make me not care about another human being. If that is your goal, give it up.

Now that I’m done, I’m going to go try and ‘fuck myself’. I don’t know if it’s possible, but I’ve been told it so many times since this went down, I’m going to go try.

Have a great night everyone!

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But there is more…

Here is another website of Jenn’s: http://site.jennsale.com/About.html
I will include a screen shot as well, because you never know when it will all be deleted.

^^^ Donation button is still there.
(It is my unbiased observation that for someone who is too proud to accept hand outs, she sure does ask for them a lot.)

First of all, the blog that she claims was purchased by an unnamed media company… It’s a free wordpress blog. She gave up the name because of all the negative attention she was getting from her nasty blog posts. That blog is now available at wordpress if anyone wants it: http://jennifergsale.wordpress.com/

The “editors” she’s always talking about… you can have them too if you sign up here. I’m a writer for Yahoo too. I have an editor. It doesn’t mean anything. It took me one week to become a fancy pants “featured contributor.” I’m not saying it isn’t something to brag about but… well, yeah, actually that’s exactly what I’m saying. You can view my “professional blogger” profile here if you want.

Something else I found interesting… Here the description of Jenn’s book “Don’t Count Your Chicken’s Before They’re McNuggets” from her website:

And here is another description of the same book from her kickstarter website:

Did she write two different books with the same title?

It amazes me, actually, to see how easily she twists and manipulates the truth. Reading her “About Me” page was like watching the Salahi’s on the RHODC reunion.

My head hurts.

Oh, by the by…. I have a paypal button now. It’s just an old inside joke, nothing to do with actual donations, so don’t pay it any mind. I could never accept money from any of you anyway. Ever. But if you wanted to force me to have the money against my will, then I suppose you could hit the donate button and then I wouldn’t be able to stop you.
But just so we’re clear, I am NOT asking for money. I’m perfectly fine sleeping on the streets with nothing but my bathrobe and slippers in the middle of a snow storm. Do not hit that donate button! I do not want help.

UPDATE:

Jenn’s “Interview” with Jill Zarin – I don’t know about you, but that doesn’t look like an interview to me…..

Jenn gives advice on how to have your record expunged – LOL

Jenn’s tweets <– this link may or may not still be working.

Jenn’s Bio BEFORE I revealed her lies. Click to enlarge: 

The same Bio AFTER (changed yesterday):

Jenn’s blog in response to her info being uncovered – Here are the screen shots for when she deletes that one too:

She changed her name on this site:

Interesting fact from Wikipedia:

In Book 7 of the Aeneid, in lines 69–83, Lavinia’s presence is made more known to the readers in her most memorable role in the Aeneid; during the sacrifice at the altars of the gods, Lavinia’s hair catches on fire, an omen promising glorious days to come for Lavinia and war for all Latins.
In Ursula K. Le Guin‘s 2008 novel Lavinia, the character of Lavinia and her relationship with Aeneas is expanded and elaborated, giving insight into the life of a king’s daughter in ancient Italy. The narrative is intriguing in that the narrator, Lavinia, says that she would not have a life without Virgil, implying that she knows she is only a myth

Her name is still the same on this site where she is listed as director of Media/PR for Project Ladybug in Chicago:

Here is Project Ladybug’s Facebook page where she is not listed:

Is she a Catholic?  http://www.mycatholicvoice.com/media/YXdAez

Or is she a Lutheran? http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5870830/trinity_lutheran_church_in_lisle_il_pg2.html?cat=8

http://yfrog.com/h0c7ldwj

This is her original AOL blog titled “Jenn’s World” that she claims in her bio (^ up there) caught the attention of “some editors”:  The screen shots are below (click to enlarge) but if the link is still working it would be easier to read it here: http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20060614071755/http://journals.aol.com/jenneejenn79/JennsWorld/

If you haven’t read the comments yet, you can’t miss them. They are hilarious!

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3,664 Responses to Twitter I*N*S*A*N*I*T*Y AKA JennGate Fraud-A-Thon 2011

  1. Bea from NJ (@sweeetbea on Twitter) says:

    How do u like them apples! We are now at 2000 comments with this comment! I’ve been keeping track! ;-D

  2. katie says:

    I thought I’d bring this over from the last page, just in case anyone missed it.

    A baker’s wife said: “Yule log envy is a disease.”

    Boy is it ever!

  3. Sammy's Mom (Debbie) says:

    Any new stuff going on? This has become my new addiction. Who needs cocktails or HW’s?

  4. Jeninvegas says:

    I’m new to all this blogging and comments stuff. Actually I *think* I’m a troll, but I’m not really sure. RCH I read your blog like the bible, but I think I need some definitions: troll, fugmatta, hobby blogger, etc. Although, I’m pretty sure I have a handle on the domestic violence suffering inmate serving community service while gulping wine from her travel mug and faxing documents from her pay by the week boarding house after using a 9volt battery to start her car to go into hiding while blogging her every move…..

    • You’re not a troll, don’t worry.
      A troll is someone who comes on the boards just to upset people and cause drama, not to actually participate in the conversation.
      Fugmatta is a word invented by one of our trolls.
      A hobby blogger is a word Jenn used to describe this and other blogs that people write for free. She writes her blogs on another site and makes $0.03 per article and in her mind that makes her a professional and superior to all other people who write Housewife recaps. (Actual blog hits and comments don’t really matter to her.) I don’t know if she made that term up or not, but I never heard that before she said it.

  5. Pompalicious says:

    Omg I left a long comment and it is not showing! Rexx, Zennie Jennie, or Joe must be in on it.

  6. Pompalicious says:

    I want to cry. It was a long post, with info, advice, and Adam if it isn’t lost. I got two phone calls while composing it, it took longer then usual to publish, so I guess I will have to write it on my computer. I just know it wont be as witty as the original. Damn! Off to try again. Stupid Droid.

  7. Adgirl says:

    This IS my part time job.

  8. Debbie says:

    Another delusional Bitch . New twitter name, new blog, in PYHU style of responding to HW’s blogs. Responding as Andy Cohen to Lynn’s blog re: RHoMIA boycott.

    @WhoaThisIsCrazy “I never thought the day would come where I couldn’t ask a question under my real twitter name. ”

    @PutYourHairUp Let’s see how you like it. BYOTCH http://themstupidbloggers.blogspot.com/

    WhoaThisIsCrazy ABC
    @DebAllyn Wait someone tried at @putyourhairup format style? Oh, so she is the only person that’s ever done it? Get of twitter you noodle
    12 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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    ABC
    WhoaThisIsCrazy ABC
    responding to tweet saying comments off:
    @DebAllyn I didn’t realize their off. Since you had to bring it up, I’ll leave them off just to piss you off.
    13 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
    ZenJen was taking 2 days off the internet, wasn’t she? I think she’s staying busy with another name

  9. Pompalicious says:

    Well, I have looked through all 7 pages for that damn post, to no avail, so I guess I will compose it again. I have to admit though, the Intensity38, Anthroboi, Det. Joe and others shower talk got me a lil hot and bothered. A new guilty pleasure of mine, I suppose. Ok, back to composing.
    Oh, BTW. Every day until Zennie Jennie contacts me, I will be revealing new details on JennGate. Make sure to check back often, I want this blog to make in into the record books. Anyone know the record?

    • She can’t contact you until Monday morning when she is done serving her weekend sentence. Allegedly. That’s my theory as to why she isn’t tweeting this weekend.
      Either that or she’s tweeting under a fake name. But “everybody know” that she can’t stay away from twitter.

      • Adgirl says:

        @PYHU Karla, the posts are still wonky & out of order. So frustrating. Is it because there are too many comments or the video box from Anthro might be buggy?

  10. Debbie says:

    RCH,
    “Omg this person is a stalker! ”
    i think that account was just started yesterday . she doesn’t stop. could it be our weekend warrior?

  11. Adgirl says:

    @PYHU the posts are still wonky ….

  12. Pompalicious says:

    Ok, trying this again, but from my computer, so again, if my quilty thingy doesn’t match, please do not go all schitzy on me.
    First, I would like to apologize to TruLifeDiva, for waiting 2+ days for me to return from Bingo. While I do enjoy a good night of Bingo, I would be needing a donate button of my own to support my two dogs.
    I am also very confused as to why my #2 husband Anthroboi is portraying himself as an English Dame. Did he not get his invite to the Royal Wedding? Is he having inner self image problems? And yes, I did propose publicly on Twitter I think in June of last year to my Anthrostud, and he publicly accepted, so back off bisches! 😉 (I still HATE that word)
    Now to the real purpose of my post for today. JennGate. After reading ol Zennie Jennie’s TL on Twitter, to say I was pissed would be an understatement. I can’t recall what set me off. I tweeted her directly, deciding it was time. She has followed me for a long time, and knows what I am about. Wait, I do remember what pissed me off. She tweeted something with the reference ‘Thorn in your side’ which is something I wrote on here. Proving, yet again, she just can’t get enough of RCH/PYHU blog. The tweet has since been deleted. I asked her nicely to DM me what PD “Detective Joe” is in, and/or to have him contact me directly. And of course, no response. You can read the tweets I wrote @Im_Pompalicious So, now that I know for a fact she is reading this, I have decided to write her a message:
    Zennie Jennie,
    As you and I both know, there are other victims out there who have suffered due to your wrong doings. The latest being DEBRA. She was so nice in putting up $750 of her hard earned money to bail you out of jail. Personally the judge should have set your bond higher then $7,500, with your history of missing court and all. But I shall save that for another day. Back to DEBRA. I am positive that DEBRA really thought she was helping you out, saving you from a bad situation, so you could prove your innocence. She is so mis-informed. I would bet my badge that poor DEBRA is unaware that by IL state law, the Court will use that money towards the restitution you will be ordered to pay. Of course, when you are found guilty. I have read the case file. There is no allegedly coming out of my mouth, and won’t ever when referring to you. But, if you can steal from your own grandmother, why would you care about Debra? In my original post that was lost in cyber space, I implored with you to take DEBRA on Monday to the Clerk of Courts Office on the first floor at the Dupage County Courthouse, and have DEBRA file a motion to be removed from your bond. I realize though, that as much as you love yourself, you would never put someone before yourself. The judge can still grant the motion without you there, and then a warrant would be issued, you would be put back into custody, whether at your next court date, or before, since it would be a felony warrant. My only hope is that DEBRA comes across this site, and figures out she has been swindled by you. At least pay her back the $750.
    BTW, no BS excuses will be accepted on March 28th. You’dd better make sure you have made all the proper arrangements beforehand. You know what I mean by this.
    Done with Zennie, but I would like to let whoever made that waist comment know that I have a very nice waist. I did 77 sit-ups in 2 minutes at my last physical eval in January. Not quite a six pack, but I can tackle a 360 pound man, while wearing 80 pounds of gear, handcuff, shackle, apply spit mask, and drag to the car. As far as this being a “waste” of time, I wish there were more blogs devoted to known felons. It may serve as a deterrent, making my job a lot easier.
    Did anyone notice the love tweets have been deleted between her and ddben?
    Okay, that is all I have for today. I apologize for my absence, it will not happen again. I forgot not everyone follows me on Twitter, so they miss certain things. In the words of Bravo Andy, “Tweet me!” @Im_Pompalicious Oh, and due to all the new followers, could you send me a tweet saying PYHU. Then I will know to follow you back. Oh, and if anyone has any doubts as to what I say, I am the one who revealed the McHenry County info, and her new court date and time, the day before it was on dupagecase.com. Thanks, and have a great weekend! Oh, and when you have thoughts like, “Man my life sucks,” always remember, you could be Jennifer L. Sale.

    • Bobbi says:

      So very glad I am not her! Of course, I lie awake at night if I purposely hurt someone’s feelings, so I sure as hell couldn’t steal from them.

      Thanks, Pomp, for the info. I too hope that Debra finds this blog and sees this posting. Jenn’s list of victims just keeps growing, doesn’t it? *smh*

    • Pompalicious says:

      I forgot to mention when I saw the Yule Log name on here posting, I tinkled a little.

    • Grace says:

      Oh WOW. Pompa just erased away the tiny amount of guilt I had for dissing Jenn on this blog. If I’m correct, Jenn didn’t show for her court appearance last Monday, and her friends bail money has been forfeited. It also sounds like Jenn will be going to jail after March 28th. I hope this time she will be sentanced to a prison, jail is too good for her.

      • Grace says:

        OK, reread Pompa. I don’t think Jenn missed court Monday, I think her friend posted bail and Pompa is worried about Debra losing the $750 she put up for bail.
        I still don’t “know that”, just guessing.

        • Pompalicious says:

          You are close, Grace. Debra loses her money, regardless if Zennie Jennie shows for court, because it is applied to the restitution she will be ordered to pay back. If Zennie misses court, then Debra is responsible to pay the whole $7500. Debra is the ne who needs to go and file the motion to be taken off the bond, not Zennie. It was my hope, somewhere inside Zennie has a heart, and wuld consider informing her of this, and let Debra decide what to do. But, reality hit me, and as much as she lies, she would never mention it to Debra. I mean, if you steal from your disabled grandmother, would you really inform someone their money is gone, and go back to jail? I think not.

    • NotAFanOfKyle says:

      Just curious Pomp, with you being a cop, do you think this Debra person wants a law official telling people this on a blog? Your a cop, ok but I’ve seen you jump in twitter fights and instigate. Sorry don’t make sense. No, I’m NOT Jenn, I think it’s actually a shame what she did. I think she needs professional help. She is what Tim Gunn called the Salahi’s “Pathological Liar”

      • Pompalicious says:

        1) Please inform me as to when/where/ and with whom I have engaged in twitter fights, and engaged/instigate? (Current situation excluded)
        2) To the best o my knowledge, there is more then 1 Debra in the world. I never once mentioned her last name. It is my hope that someone may know Debra and pass on the information.
        3) I would never jump to such a silly conclusion that you are Zennie Jennie, and appreciate that you expressed concern for her. Nothing wrong with that. If anything, I hope to educate people who may find themselves in a similar situation in the future.
        So, again, all I ask is you do some digging and find these twit battles I have allegedly engaged in and instigated. If correct, I will issue a formal apology, as I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. I will be awaiting your response, once I return from Starbucks.

      • Damnert says:

        Grace – she is stating that the bail posted, instead of returned, after a disposition of the case occurs, is taken and applied as part of the resitution, to victims.

        NotAFan – I always like to call them “debates” :o) , though twitterfight may be in the Urban Dictionary. Having said that, what’s your point?

        Stealing consistantly from those that are weaker than you, or may believe your stories of “woe” are not ill.

        They would be predators.

        The best you could do, if you feel “sorry” for her, and you want to help, is to stop feeding her pathetic ego.

      • Pompalicious says:

        Well, 3 hours later, and still no proof of your allegations. Thanks for playing.

    • Intensity38 says:

      Just a little FYI.
      Debra, The person that bailed Jen out, is her mother.
      Just thought you should know.

      • Grace says:

        Oh wow, she ripped off her mom now? I hope her kids don’t have any savings.
        Damnert-Good point re, she is not sick, she is a predator. That’s why it is so disturbing to see people support her. Their support is so superficial, I think they should take up a collection for Jennies bail fund.

        • Damnert says:

          Grace – I have no problem with people posting their opinions about about the woman needing professional help, I feel bad, yada yada.

          I’ll disagree in and give stated reasons why I personally feel the way I do.

          Or, I will just let the comment lay on it’s own and not respond.

          But calling out the one person who is stopping all the rumors and assumptions out, pisses me off to no end.

          Telling me that I should pity someone who utlizes the trust of others to commit crimes – pisses me off to no end.

          Don’t call out someone telling them they aren’t a very good law enforcement officer because they told the truth.

          And yeah, there are a few people in the twittersphere I’d just LOVE to see put their money where their mouth is where it comes to JS.

          Chaps my ass to see someone get all passive-agressive with another person that’s actually standing up and doing the right thing.

          • Pompalicious says:

            Oh you, Damn you Damnert, you just made feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I appreciate the support. The more the word gets out about this blog, the less people will fall for hers, or anyone else’s scams/BS. She is nt the first to cry wolf, nor the last. I did this for two reasons. 1) For all those out there with big hearts who do good things for others expecting nothing in return. Yes, they do exist, including myself. 2) For all the hobby bloggers out there. Lynn, PYHU, and others who were affected, however so small, with her BS and lies. She has everything coming to her, and then some.

      • Pompalicious says:

        For the record, this information did not come from me, and as such I cannot nor will not confirm or deny.

  13. Pompalicious says:

    Why is my comment way up there and not at the bottom?

    • Intensity38 says:

      I dont know, I was thinking the same thing
      Was thinking maybe someone can cut and paste all the gathered info above and start blog 2 of Jen-ho-Gate.
      Just a suggestion as this is getting really wild!

  14. Intensity38 says:

    Here, Jen describes herself as ‘just plain awesome’

    http://www.allvoices.com/users/jennifersale

    Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  15. Debbie says:

    Grace
    I think Pompa is suggesting JS file a motion to have Debra removed from bond application so she doesn’t lose her $750 if she is found guilty. The court will apply that to any restitution Jen has to make and Debra is probably unaware of this fact. She probably believes she will get her money back if Jen appears for trial/sentencing. That is NOT he case. Pomp implored her to think of someone other than herself. Fat chance, IMO.

    • Pompalicious says:

      Correctomundo, minus the Zennie Jennie filing the motion. Debra has to. The judge is more likely to approve the motion if Zennie is there for the hearing, so no more time and resources are used to locate her. That being said, the judge can still approve the motion, and issue another bench warrant for her arrest, and she will either get picked up, or at her next hearing be remanded into custody.

  16. Sylvester says:

    OMG…

    Have you see this?

    Poor RCH: http://themstupidbloggers.blogspot.com/

  17. Debbie says:

    Intensity,
    I agree with your thoughts in your last comment about JS and her husband. Furthermore, I don’t think a scumbag of a single man would post a photo of himself with his three kids. Otherwise if he’s trying to meet women he might have wanted to appear less encumbered.the kids I saw the website briefly and don’t remember his last name , is it Sale?

  18. New Blog: http://wp.me/pXhBd-1hN

    We should start commenting over there because this blog is falling apart at the seems.

  19. Debbie says:

    RCH,
    I dont know where this will post so I’ll go to new blog after this.
    “The stole my BS Blog style. Lol.”
    someone sent my the link she had sent to me (she was blocked)
    First thing i told her was they stole your BS Blog style.
    Thats when she kicked up the nastiness a notch & started tweeting you and me .
    But , I told @Damnert, I had my twitter cherry busted.. She called me both a bully and a bitch. First time ever, as I usually don’t respond to the douchebag haters.
    I think I was the cause of her then hating on you. But it’s rather fun to watch them spew their venom then back down and block.

    • My twitter tab had 12 new mentions in like a minute. So I went and clicked, and they were all from her. Lol.
      But I think she deleted them. I didn’t read them before, I only glanced at them and just now I went to actually read what she said and they were all gone.

      • Bea from NJ (@sweeetbea on Twitter) says:

        You probably can’t read them cause she protected her acct, so you can’t see them anymore

  20. Need a Hobby says:

    Dunno where this will actually post, but move over to the new “Best Comments” blog to continue posting. This thread’s software has broken down and is whimpering softly.

    That is all. Thank you for flying with us.

  21. Intensity38 says:

    Wow RCH your blog is the ‘talk of twitter’
    I find it very funny that all these idiots are saying things about the commenters on here and what they are saying, Yet they are spending THEIR time reading all of this. It’s called jealousy
    Funny that none of them have even said a word about what Jen did, yet constantly call everyone else out on things they have no knowledge of.
    Ain’t you just awesome! LMAO!
    I think you must add awesome to your resume.

  22. Misty says:

    Intensity38 You’re a busy buddy with an agenda.

    • Intensity38 says:

      A busy buddy?
      With an agenda?
      Yes I guess I do have an agenda, I believe you need that to make something of your life.
      Now on to ‘busy buddy’.
      Um, First I have never heard of that and second, If I am a busy buddy does that make you a Lazy laddie?

      • anthroboi says:

        SOMEBODY GET BUSY BEE!

      • Damnert says:

        Musty is such a boring BORING troll.

        You have to wonder if Musty’s ass ever gets jealous of all the shit coming out of Musty’s brain.

        • RCH says:

          I agree. The quality of the trolls has been sucking lately.

          So has Jenn. Even her under handed passive aggressive twitter insults have been weak. I think I’ve become desensitized. How is any twitter war or insane Housewife blogger ever going to shock me after this?

  23. Amykish says:

    You should write a book about this thread! Lol

  24. Amykish says:

    You should write a book about this thread! Lol

  25. eric sale says:

    well she is in prison now!!

  26. KB says:

    WTH…it’s true. she was given 4 years in Dwight womens prison. I was a fan. WAS. How I was duped into all of her stuff is amazing to me, as I’m not normally such a Polly Anna! I noticed things weren’t adding up and went in search of info on the net….wow. just wow. 4 years in prison, not jail. prison……..

  27. Anonymous says:

    unbelievable….talk about shock and awe. =/ I learned a valuable lesson, live and learn, live and learn. It certainly won’t be so easy to pull the wool over my eye’s in the future.

  28. Anonymous says:

    what a dummy…. =/

  29. AnotherJen says:

    For real? Shes in prison?

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  40. Eric Sale says:

    Jenn is doing a lot of new ventures now.

  41. Dubious says:

    In case anyone is still reading this in 2015. Nothing has changed with JustSayJenn.

    http://www.gofundme.com/team-phoenix

    This was posted by her friend/podcast partner Kristi (I won’t name the podcast because I don’t want to give them any PR; it might lead to three people listening to these two drunken and very not funny women talking about nothing and laughing at themselves):

    My brave and amazing friend, Jenn, was attacked by her exhusband, he held her and her kids captive for two hours and shattered her hand and arm in three places. I recieved texts from her number and knew it was not her and called the Chicago police. They took him to jail.
    He only went to jail for a few days and the second he got out, began harassing and stalking her again. After several instances where she feared for her saftey and found out he was sitting and watching her 24/7, she packed up what would fit in her car, loaded the kids up and escaped Chicago to stay with me in Atlanta. She is starting completely over and hasn’t recieved child support from him in over 3 months. While escaping, she also found out that he stole and killed her kid’s dog before the transport team could get the dog and send her to Altanta. This just shows how sick this man is and how thankful I am she left when she did.The kids have been through more trauma than most adults deal with in a lifetime, have lost everything they own and now their dog.
    I just want to help get her established and enough financial help while she looks for a job.
    Anything helps! Thank you for reaching out and if you’d like to donate any home items or kids items, message me here and I will coordinate that. Team JustSayJenn!

    There is a pending court case against the husband but all that means is that Jenn filed a complaint (again). Not that he actually did what she’s accusing him of doing. And, as in the past, it could just be that they got into another fight where each of them battered the other one.
    *******
    Interestingly enough, she did the exact same thing this time as she did before. She is so afraid of him but she posts on her FB page (which is still up but her timeline was wiped clean) that she was planning to move to Atlanta. Hey battering husband! I am planning to leave you and here’s where I am going!

    • Eric Sale says:

      Yeah Jenn is up to her old tricks again, she really is a sociopath. she thinks she is going to get rich doing stupid videos, And her ” friend” for whom she has only lied to about everything in regards to her Ex- husband do a on-line radio show and it is really bad.A 36 and 40 year old talking about nothing, like two twelve year old’s. She did how ever take the kids to Atlanta and is using them as weapons. If anyone needs help its her ex-husband for loving her and hoping she would be a good person, but after more than ten years with her I now know that will never be the case.

      • Dubious says:

        But if you really are Eric, well, we know you are no angel, either. The court records have numerous complaints about each of you clobbering the other. Way back when, one of these commenters befriended your father (creepy, I know) and he said you definitely were not without blame, either. And there is a new criminal matter pending, though that doesn’t prove anything. Could be you guys just had a fight and she called the cops. She is claiming you broke her arm. For all we know, she fell when she was out running.

        What’s this claim that you killed a dog? Care to respond to that? Nothing I’ve read about you before makes you seem like someone who would harm an animal or be rotten to his kids. Even she’s never claimed that before.

        By the way, what does this woman do for cash? Is she on public assistance?

        • Anonymous says:

          She abandon my dog, my cousin gave her to me. I would never hurt an animal, unless I hunted it a would eat it. I have taken care of my kids for their whole lives and I always will. I would never hurt them I haven’t ever Evan spanked them, yes I know I’m no angel never said I was, I loved Jenn through all her violent mental stuff. She has been in and out of institutions three time since we been together she abandon her kid, she is very violent, and you know about her felonies. I have never got violent with her. This time she attacked me and kept trying to kick me in the balls, I only tried to grab her arms and told her to stop she pushed off of me and tripped backwards and hurt her hand. Now she is violating our custody order by keeping my kids away, she stole my car and took it out of state. My lawyer yes both things could be bad for her. I haven’t done anything as of yet. Now she is doing what she did before tell people BS , people who don’t actually know her because no one in her family wants anything to do with her. Her friend Kristy only knows her like all her “friend” on line, she can’t have real relationships because she will steal from you and lie to you. So idk, I love my kids but ten years of this madness has to end.

          • Anonymous says:

            Oh bout how she has money, I supported for all these years.

          • Dubious says:

            She posted a screen shot of a text that is supposedly from you saying that the dog had been euthanized – did she spoof that or did you send it? I wouldn’t put it past her to spoof it.

            • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

              No I did do that, she was and is using kids as weapons and not letting them talk to me knowing it would make me crazy and it did then she wouldn’t shut up about the dog so yeah I text her that, but I said I was sorry and told her it wasn’t true. I could never hell I will still cry when I think about my first dog the died when I was eleven. Jenns mother is still convinced Jenn had something to do with my last dog that died mysteriously. She said she loved that dog but showed no emotion when I was crying so hard I could hardly dig a grave.Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

  42. Dubious says:

    More news. Not giving the URL because again, don’t want to give her any PR. But this is what Kristi just posted. It would appear that Kristi doesn’t know anything about this blog because if she did, she’d have mountains of proof that JSJ has done this before, in almost the exact same way. The comments are pretty much the same. They are believing everything that comes out of the mouth of a woman who has been convicted of two felonies and who allegedly married the father of these kids without bothering to divorce her first husband. Honesty is not her middle name.

    UPDATE: JENN IS SAFE & STARTING OVER!
    I debated on if I was going to post this on here. At the end of the day, we have to check our pride and accept help where it could be offered. Also, I hope seeing what Jenn’s been through will send a message to those who are in similar situations. Get out and find some peace in any way possible.

    My friend Karrie and I have also been hit with the cold facts that so many woman in Jenn’s position stay in dangerous situations because they have no where else to go or any means to escape. We are working on setting up a group that can be a place for women to go when they just need a chance.

    The big con an abuser always plays is smearing his victim and secluding them from people they’re closest to. Its a cat and mouse game and a dangerous cycle. One Jenn almost didn’t make it out of intact. I’m no therapist, but having been a side-kick to this for over a year, I see how far it can go.

    I’m so thankful she got out when she did because his behavior has escalated to a point that a life has been lost. Just to hurt and torture her from a distance. Now her children have lost their dog and she has to figure out how to tell them. How much more do these kids have to lose so he can get his fix in hurting their mother?

    I set up a GoFundMe to help Jenn get back on her feet. Whether you donate or not, keep the nasty comments off our site. I have zero tolerance for all this stupid bullshit of pulling up mistakes from over a decade ago. And if you have decided to hitch your trailer to a woman-beating, child abusing dog killer, set up a GoFundMe page for him so he can pay for his attorney’s fees. He’s going to need it.

    Help share this so we can help someone who has done a lot for a lot of people! We have dedicated hours a day to this site basically for free. We do it because we love having something that reflects who we are and sharing a little piece of us with those who care.
    If you can give or share her story, please do so. Right now is her time-healing, moving forward and making sure that piece of shit can never harm her, her kids or her pets again.

    Things will get back to normal in the next few weeks! Thanks for your patience!

  43. Dubious says:

    Well, everyone here predicted she would do something like this again. I am just surprised it took her so long. Also thought she’d figure out a way to steal money again. Even with child support, it is hard to take care of three kids when you aren’t working. And then the flood wiped her out. Sounds like you two are totally toxic to one another. Everyone here always felt bad for your kids and sounds like we were right to worry about them.

    • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

      The flood wiped me out! And yeah the kids would cry and hug me and be by my side when she would go cra cra on me and it was always because of her all I did was work and be a good dad and hope for a normal family. But Jenn never had a normal family so I don’t think she will ever know what that means. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

    • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

      If it weren’t for you I would have never learned of all the crap she lied about me, I guess thanks for that.Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

    • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

      I told people on wine and sass to go to your site should sadly be funSent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

    • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

      lol well jenn black listed me on wine and sass

    • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

      I don’t know if you can do anything but Jenn now has cut me off from my kids, I love them so much but she is insane, everyone told me not to give her full custody but like a fool I wanted to believe in her.Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

      • Dubious says:

        OK so I am not the owner of this blog. I am just one of many commenters. And no, I can’t do anything with regard to Jenn. That’s what your lawyer is for. From what you’ve both said and done, it is obvious that you both need counseling. An adult who tells his wife and kids that he put their healthy dog down needs help. That’s just not acceptable, no matter how hurt you were. And good lord why were the two of you even living together after everything that went down? You said the flood wiped you out. She had video and photos of the house. Was she living there? You should have stayed as far away from one another as possible.

  44. jilly says:

    She’s at it again! Jenn claims abuse and her dog may be killed. WTF??

    • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

      The dog is fine, she is just pissed because I haven’t given her child support yet because I don’t get paid till today. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

    • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

      Where are you seeing that?Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

    • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

      It would be my guess she is saying that for more money.Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

    • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

      unless they have me blocked somehow it looks like the same old BS and lies. Jenn has to be around people who don’t know her so she can say whatever, The whole leaving because she was afraid Is BS she left the kids with me twice before they left and she didn’t seem to be afraid when I gave her money. She hasn’t let me talk to my kids in over a week she blocked me on their FB and twitter. This is all for effect. She hasn’t posted she wrote bad checks and forged my signature three days before she left or that she stole my car. I haven’t decided what I’m going to do about it she already is a convicted felon and she has my kids, its hard to say what she would do with them if she knew she was wanted again. Is anybody even reading this blog anymore? I would love to hear some thoughts.

      • Dubious says:

        Obviously some of us are checking in from time to time, though I was checking it mostly to see if RCH/PYHU was around. She’s been MIA since about a year ago. No sign of her on twitter, her wordpress blog, or here.

        With all the stuff both of you have done, neither one of you has ever alleged that the other one has hurt the kids. To the contrary, despite all your problems (yours and hers) with one another, it sounds like you’ve both been good parents to the kids. From everything she has posted, the kids seem to be doing well.

        Seriously, you both have major problems. Neither one of you can control your behavior when you get angry and you both seem to be very angry people who do and say lots of inappropriate things, including stealing money from employers and grandparents (her), violence (both of you), and more. You keep getting back together even though you shouldn’t be anywhere near one another.

        We all know her scam; we’ve seen it before. But you admitted you were violent with her. Yes, yes, we know – she tried to nail you in the nads. Not cool. But breaking her arm was totally not cool, either. Doesn’t that house have doors? Couldn’t you just have walked out?

        • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

          Agreed except one thing, I didn’t get violent with her yes in the heat of the moment in a confined space I should have ran away but I did not get violent or push her. Her arm is not broken she didn’t even get a cast its just wrapped.Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

          • Dubious says:

            I wouldn’t put it past her to have someone put on a cast for show but she had photos showing a cast and later what looked like a surgical scar. Again, wouldn’t put it past her to phony it all up. The two of you need help. You knew she was married to someone else, you knew she was a thief, you need she was a liar. And you went on to have two more kids with her. Each of you has filed multiple assault charges. We have no way of knowing if any of it is true. For all we know, you both beat each other up on a regular basis. She shouldn’t have been living in the same house as you and you shouldn’t have had any contact with her except as necessary to transfer the kids back and forth.

            • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

              I guess I thought live would overcome all the BS I was wrong!Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

            • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

              Where are you seeing her arm and hand?Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

              • Dubious says:

                She had photos posted on her FB page. She has taken them down. She still has these on her instagram: http://www.iphoneogram.com/p/946490158941605473_340441922/
                (Jennigulbrandsen)

                • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

                  Wow I’m supposed you’re not blocked, but as you can see its a wrap not a castSent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

              • Dubious says:

                In one photo she has a horrible raised scar and in the other, it looks like no scar, just bruising. A scar like that wouldn’t heal so well, so quickly. So I have my doubts about whether that is really her hand in the photo. You must be getting the insurance bills by now (mot people don’t reach their deductible so early in the year). Call the insurance company and ask them what the codes mean, i.e., what procedures were performed. She told her W&S partner she had emergency surgery. She wrote that on her FB page, too. So there should be a bill for a surgeon and a hospital or a surgical center.

                • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

                  Well Jenn is being Jenn and using my kids as responds AGAIN! So now I’m filing to get them back here and for custody.Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

        • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

          I don’t know why I’m on here or saying this. Jenn was an angry person when I met her. I am only angry with my self and the situations she keeps putting us in. When I married her I married the love of my life. I tried and tried, a week after our honeymoon it started to go south, I was at work and i got a call from her work asking me where she was at, I didn’t know, her work called a half hour later saying if she didn’t call them they were going to call the police. I asked what was going on? they said they couldn’t tell me I said but I’m her husband I should know why you re going to call the police. as it turned out she had stole Money from a special needs person she was in charge of and quit her job. this made no since as she told me she was rich that she had three million dollars in the bank from a law suit from a car accident in which her best friend was killed and she spent months in the hospital. I never wanted a dime of her money, she said she wanted to buy me a truck and a new boat, I said no. things seemed to go ok until after Gabby was born. one day I got a call from a credit card company telling me my card is maxed out and no payment were ever made. I asked that they send me a copy of all the purchases. Then I remembered they sent me a card and I told Jenn we will only use it in an emergency, I called her to ask what was up with the card and here only response was ” it is what it is” I was pissed but I let it go. not long after that I got a call from Capital one asking if I got a call from my bank, again I had no idea WTH, I said no why would I? they said I wrote three thousand dollars in bad checks. I called the bank they had no idea, then I remembered Capital One used to send checks and it came out of your credit card account. I asked Jenn about it and she said she used it to freeze the after stuff when she had Gabby to be used as stem cells if something went wrong. I thought that was cool and again let it go. It started working on me tho so I called the hospital and that was also a lie. I was devastated not more that a week maybe two had went by since I married the love of my life that I didn’t catch her in a lie, that doesn’t count the one im going to tell you next. so so much wasn’t adding up. I want going to ask her mother because jenn said her mom allowed her to be sexually abused as a child, I wanted people in body bags when i heard that and of coarse jenn was very vivid. so one day I looked in her phone, the first time I ever spied on anyone, I saw the names of her cats she had from her first marriage so I called, a man answered the phone I said ” this is Eric Sale Im married to Jennifer” the guy at the other end said ” so am I” I said we have a kid and have been married for a year he just said ” yeah I kinda figured” I think it was in that moment I developed a anxiety disorder.With my world spinning out of control I was felt forced to call her mother. she said don’t tell Jenn you know and i will come over tomorrow because there is alot more you need to know. as it turns out there was no car crash no dead best friend no money no sexual abuse nearly everything she ever told me was a lie. oh she said she had 4 brothers one was a doctor one a lawyer one in drug rehab one in Real estate. all lies and many many more lies. that’s when her mother said jenn has been put in a mental facility before and maybe its time to go again, so that’s what we did we tried to get her help. well everyone that’s the first year of our time together. everyone I knew back then said I should write a book about this. this wasn’t funny to me she obviously needed help I was although not legally at the time as it turns out her husband and that meant everything to me. People said run as far and as fast as you can I said no! I love her I made a vow ” for better or for worst”. well this was therapeutic for me I think or at least for the first time in over ten years I’m writing it down, maybe I will write a book. tell me what you think there is unfortunately a real whole lot more as you know.

          • Dubious says:

            Sooner or later, Kristie and her friends in Atlanta will figure it out. She can’t support herself and three kids in a legit job. She’ll end up stealing sooner or later. She’ll scam them sooner or later. And when that happens, if she comes back to Chicago, you need to not let her live with you. You need to get a lawyer, get a custody arrangement, and see your kids without her around. Then return them to her on time. Meanwhile, there’s little chance she’s going to come back to Chicago to testify against you. And that alone is going to make her new friends who have no idea what a liar and a thief she is wonder just what is going on.

            If you have the patience to read back through everything on this blog, you will see that people already figured out that she was charged with felonies in two separate cases, convicted in both, went to prison for one. Who do you think found the article in the newspaper (that she says you planted). We’ve seen the court records and the mug shots. We already figured out that she was married to someone else when she married you. We know all this and more. Her new friends will figure it out, too. She will try as she has before to say it is all in the distant past but she was saying that even as she was about to be taken to prison. We know the dates. It was not the distant past. She has already said “all you have is a five-year old blog). Well, it is actually four years old but it isn’t any less true now than it was in 2011 when we first caught on to her scam.

            But all her lies and BS and criminal activity don’t tell me that you aren’t guilty of some or all of what she’s accused you of. It just tells me she is a horrible person. Doesn’t mean you aren’t horrible, too. So far, I see you as incredibly immature and unrealistic, manipulative, and with poor self control.

            • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

              I don’t think I’m manipulative, why would you say that?Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

              • Dubious says:

                Telling her the dog was dead, for starters.

                • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

                  Yeah iDisk that to shut her up about the dog and to freak her out a little but any one who knows me knows I would never do something like that I know it was stupid and as it turns out she took the kids to FLA. And only since yesterday had got an apt. So the whole dog thing on her part was just to get sympathy Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

            • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

              Everyone who knows us says the same thing Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

            • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

              Hey report on go fund me that Jenn is committing fraud because it is bs. She will have to pay the money back.Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

              • Dubious says:

                Eric. Time to grow up. Stop contacting her. Stop worrying about her fraud and what she is doing. She’s a sociopath and a criminal and she isn’t going to stop. The only thing that matters is your kids. That’s what you have a lawyer for – making sure you get to see your kids. There is no reason for you to contact her via text, phone, e-mail, that stupid two-bit W&S blog, or any other way. You are just making things worse. Let your lawyer deal with it. Yes of course she used the dog thing for sympathy, just as you used the dog thing to upset her. Knock it off. Stop contacting her. Let the lawyer deal with it. She won’t be able to register the vehicle if it is in your name and so unless you want her to have it, have your lawyer demand it be returned. And then have the lawyer sort out the custody and visitation and support issues and you cease all contact with her except as necessary to transfer the kids back and forth or to discuss the health and welfare of the kids.

                She now claims you said you won’t give her the dog because she won’t let you see the kids. STOP IT. If that’s true, she’s a cold-hearted *itch (duh) but your retaliating just makes it worse. Just let your lawyer deal with it. Don’t you realize she uses this stuff as a way to make you look awful and garner sympathy from her friends?

                • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

                  I am letting my lawyer handle things from here on out, he said don’t send the dog because it looks like I’m ok with her taking my kids and living in Atlanta, she wants me to send child support through Pay Pal again my lawyer said no it has to go through the court, because I didn’t send any to her that’s why she is using my kids as weapons and allowing no contact. I love my kids more than life and it’s making me crazy not to at least talk to them. But yeah my lawyers have a lot in the works I’ll not talk about here.Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

                • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

                  Where is she making these claims about the dog? I posted a pic of me and Kina on my FB page yesterday.Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

                • Dubious says:

                  She made the comments about your playing games re: the dog because she wasn’t “behaving” and letting you see your kids – it was in the comments section on the most recent of her BS W&S blog.

                • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

                  Yeah I found it just more lies for sympathy Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

            • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

              Well it looks like ” go fund me” found out about Jenns new fraud and scam as the site no longer exists, maybe there is justice in the world. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

              • Dubious says:

                Or…they reached their goal. I seriously doubt GoFundMe has investigated your past and hers and determined that she is lying. But you need to stop worrying about what Jennifer Lavinia Gulbrandsen Jacob Sale is doing except insofar as it involves your kids or affects your kids. Again – grow up, knock it off, and let your lawyer deal with it. Make your child support payments on time. Not doing it just hurts your kids. Let your lawyer deal with the custody and visitation issues. Stop communicating with her. Communicate through your lawyer.

    • Dubious says:

      Yes, Jilly. We know. Read the posts immediately above yours.

  45. jilly says:

    Please read latest scam on wine and sass

    • Dubious says:

      Yes, Jilly, we know. I was trying to avoid giving her two-bit blog any PR by not posting the name or URL.

  46. Dubious says:

    In case anyone is still checking here besides me, Jenn is now claiming on FB that her ex is going to jail. He did have a court date today, but if you check the court records you will see that the case was continued to July 23 (for trial).

    In other words, once again, Jenn is lying. I guess her friends down in Atlanta don’t know how to check the court records or they are still buying her B.S.

    • Anonymous says:

      Hello world as you can see I’m free as a bird!

      • Anonymous says:

        I learned a little something being with a psycho for eleven years and that’s good wins against bad!

    • Sniff snaff says:

      She burned her bridges yet again. Time to re-invent, psycho style

      • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

        Yeah, she is really off the rails these days!Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

        • cindy says:

          Yes, it appears so – I’ve been watching this story for several years and the latest that I know of, is that she moved to Atlanta with the help of Kristi, but then it appears that she and Kristi were feuding and then they “broke up” and Kristi turned on her & then Jenn has barely been seen or heard from since! I was just wondering if you had the story behind the break up of “Wine & Sass” – could you reply hear?

          PS – I wish you the best & I hope that you got your custody back etc…. It is quite clear that you were being manipulated & taken advantage of, and lied about – I’m so sorry that happened to you & that you were probably her worst victim. You didn’t deserve it, from what i can see…

          • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

            Kristy found out that Jenns a liar, and figured out Jenns a socio path!Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

            • Kristi says:

              Someone informed me that my name had been brought up over here and I’m going to explain this once to Mr. Sale. Don’t ever speak for me. You have no idea what I know or think.
              As far as I’m concerned, you’re both complete psychopaths.

              Don’t buy his BS. He’s full sh!t just as much as she is. From what I could see, he didn’t give two craps about his kids and was more focused on finding ways to control his ex than have a healthy relationship with them. Likes attract likes. They are two peas in one f#$&’ed up pod.

              • Anonymous says:

                lol, yeah that’s why you two got together. but YOU know nothing about me or what I been through with her!

              • Laughing says:

                Hahaha. K you are SUUUUCH a *** C*** So you would know about them. We are all dying laughing that you finally got served after you ignored all of your friends warnings.
                You really believed that actress Melissa McCarthy was her bff. You believed that. You were so desperate to be famous you told everyone who tried to show you PROOF and talk sense to you to go to hell.
                Karma is a bitch. Sit in that bed you made and roll around in it whore. You deserve it.

                • For Real? says:

                  She’s a “whore” because she has a huge heart and tried to help somebody when no one else would? Wow, talk about karma hitting somebody by the way you speak to somebody you’ve never even met. It must suck to have to live with yourself everyday, but I hope nobody else is stuck with you too!

                • ericlsale@comcast.net says:

                  Not to get into this fight, but she didn’t need help. There were people where she lived who would have if, any of what she said were true. No one in her family wants anything to do with her and most everyone who befriended her wants anything to do with her. Everyone knows what a liar and Socio Path she is. That being said even those people would have helped IF any of it were true. This Jenn INSANITY have been going on for years, hence this whole blog. This blog only touches the tip of the iceberg of lies shes told and bad things shes done,

              • Dubious says:

                Kristi – I almost feel bad for not trying to contact you to warn you. However, Jenn wrote a blog or a comment on W&S saying that you and Karrie had found this blog. It sounded as though you either didn’t believe it or if you believed it, you bought her excuses. In any case, you were supporting her anyway. So what happened? Did she steal from you?

                You really hit the nail on the head. They are both psychopaths and totally effed up. I feel horrible for those three kids but so far, they seem to be totally cool kids. Let’s hope that they survive their parents’ mental issues.

                • Eric says:

                  Hey, that’s not fair, I’m not a liar, cheat, thief, diagnosed socio path or convinced felon. When you love someone who is yeah it makes you do some nutty things.

                • Kristi says:

                  I checked this site out of nowhere today and decided I can comment now on what happened:
                  Jenn expressed emergency need to escape her ex. I believed her and helped her move to Atlanta. She told me she could relocate and bring the kids and there was nothing the courts could do. So I sent her some cash to get here and proceeded to bring all my friends on board to help as well. We all pitched in what we could. I loaned her my furniture-VERY nice furniture and tvs and basically anything I had extra… I also gave her tons of kids clothes. I also used $250 to buy some Craigslist living room furniture from her GoFundMe I had collected. Then I gave her the $1000 left, plus a total of $1800 from my own bank account. It’s all I had to give.
                  She got here and we got her settled and not even a few months went by that things started going bad. I had a bad feeling and knew things weren’t right. She kept telling me everything was fine, but she’d blow me off, cancel plans and had begun telling me my friend I had introduced her to was on drugs and I was stupid enough to believe it. It caused a big riff between me and this friend and we are just now healing the friendship. Of course she was also telling lies about me. Then out of nowhere she blew up at me and dumped me without even a “Hey thanks for the memories and saving my life.” I ceased being useful to her. I looked back on a lot of instances and it hit me like a ton of bricks that she was lying to everyone about everyone to cause a divide and make sure she was closest to all of us but we weren’t close with each other.
                  By then her and Karrie had become very close because Karrie is wealthy, has no job and her husband travels. She’d drop everything and run to Jenn’s aid with a checkbook or help her with the kids or dogs. I have a full time job, two kids and a husband so I wasn’t cutting it. I honestly have no idea how much Karrie ended up loaning her but I wouldn’t be surprise if it exceeded $8000. She also gave her a car and moved into one of her rental properties.
                  I went to get my things back that Jenn used for 5 months and they were FILTHY and infested in fleas. I’ve never seen an apartment this dirty. I couldn’t take back my brand new mattress that went with my bedroom set because it had fleas and cat pee on it.
                  Nor could I take the new living room set. It’s was nasty and I had to dump it. No one bothered even telling me the apartment had fleas in it and I was covered in bites.
                  Then I find out that she’s telling everyone that she doesn’t owe me money and that I stole the GoFundMe money which isn’t true and I have the cashed checks to prove it.
                  THEN I find out she’s telling people that I found out my husband was cheating on me and I confronted him and he slammed me to the ground in front of my son and that’s how I injured my back instead of the real way which was water skiing (or trying to). She was also saying that I moved her here and just dumped her when that was absolute BS.

                  She began getting on my new blog and harassing me, lying, calling me a drunk, a liar…it was ridiculous. And this whole time Karrie is defending her and refused to believe anything I’d tell her. I finally had to drop that friendship. There’s no way to be friend with someone that is besties with the person who shit on you in every possible way and defends her constantly.
                  I then did a background check on Jenn just to see how far the rabbit hole goes and basically just about everything she said about her past is a lie. I’ve honestly never known someone like that before-you don’t realize that people like this actually exist.
                  I didn’t help Jenn or do any of this because I wanted the show, I didn’t give AF about the show or who she said she knew. But I’m not the kind of person who can walk away from someone when they are in danger. If I knew then what I know now would I have helped her? Of course not. I’ve lost one friend I had for 7 years and another is slowly being rebuilt. Her issues consumed me for months after she got here because she wasn’t honest with her ability to move the kids out of state and of course she had legal ramifications that Karrie ended up fitting the bill for.
                  She’s a conartist and I’m dealing with the guilt of bringing her here and watching her sponge off my former friend of 7 years who refuses to believe or care about what I’ve told her.
                  Did she really need to escape her ex (who isn’t a real exhusband because she married him while already married to someone else)? Who the f&^# knows. Anything that comes out of her mouth is either a lie or an embellishment. She has a very inflated ego and thinks she smarter than everyone on the planet which always becomes her downfall with any friends. She eventually can’t hide the real Jenn and it costs her “friends” but on the other hand, I don’t think she has the soul to even care. She’s just on to the next-no time for giving AF.
                  So that’s it. I’ve moved on, happy she cut me loose because I’m loyal to a fault. My best friend is the one who I sleep next to every night and I will never allow someone else’s insanity to effect my life again.
                  This is the first time I’ve really talked about this outside my inner network and the first time I’ve written about it online. Reality can be way more insane that fiction.
                  So remember, kids: where there’s smoke, there’s fire. 😀

  47. Anonymous says:

    Not to get into this fight, but she didn’t need help. There were people where she lived who would have if, any of what she said were true. No one in her family wants anything to do with her and most everyone who befriended her wants anything to do with her. Everyone knows what a liar and Socio Path she is. That being said even those people would have helped IF any of it were true. This Jenn INSANITY have been going on for years, hence this whole blog. This blog only touches the tip of the iceberg of lies shes told and bad things shes done,

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